Updates - 6th February 2006
Well, time for a multitude of updates from the HYIP and "Online Earning World!"
First up some good news.
MPDW paid out 3.25% this week and honoured all withdrawal quests. If you've been checking out the negative campaign against them you will see that it seems the negative accusations have had holes poked through them. I still wouldn't peg them as a 'almost certainty' like NS-FG though, but still have a fair bit of faith.
Udachu paid me out too and I got my emailed statement. I'll stop updating you on these guys unless something goes wrong.
PixMeUp is getting there. Slowly! Backoffice should be complete for prelaunch signees soon.
The Neverending Stori is beginning to take off for me now - definitely an awesome opportunity.
And now, onto big news in another edition of the "Stormpay Causes Trouble For Us" digest.
Here's what Alientrust and 12DailyPro have to say about matters:
"StormPay
I am sure you are all understandably anxious to hear updates on our progress toward recovering our funds. Today, we were able to arrange to retain the attorney who will be representing us in this matter. He has outlined a strategy for attempting to get our funds released by StormPay by whatever means at our disposal. We hope for swift action in the matter and will keep you as informed as things unfold, to the extent that we can without compromising the case.
Refunds
We will begin issuing a few refunds this evening and will process a batch of refunds daily. The order of the refunds will be: 1) Remaining Egold/EMO 2)Remaining Egold/Money Order, 3)Compounded EMO, 4)EMO. Please note that because we are unsure of how fast we will be able to resolve the StormPay situation, nor what the outcome of our efforts will be, we cannot provide any kind of time frame by which these EMO refunds will be issued. Also, due to StormPay’s random refunds and double payments that they are conducting with our funds and without our input, we are unable to yet give an accurate assessment to you of how we will deal with the StormPay refunds. Our hope is that by the time EMO payouts (currently on Dec. 8 expiration), catch up with where we left off with StormPay withdrawals, (Dec 23 expiration), that we will have some resolution on the StormPay issue and can announce a plan and/or for StormPay refunds.
Ticket System
Tomorrow, we will be revamping the ticket system to meet our current circumstances. In light of what has occurred and the fact that our goal is to be able to refund all pending and active upgrades, we will be closing all account issue related tickets. The new ticket departments will meet our current situation as well as provide support for the new site. There will also be a department for any missing EMO upgrades. Because there is no way for us to verify missing StormPay at this time, these will have to wait until we are able to gain access to our account data there. We strongly urge that you not submit tickets asking about the current situation; we will be posting updates daily and sometimes several times a day regarding progress on these matters. Our support staff has been extremely reduced, so we can have more funds available for refunds and basic operations. So, inundating the tickets system will only slow our ability to respond to the specific ticket issues we deem vital at this time.
Forum
We have now made all areas of the forum viewable to all guests, so that all of you can read it. We are unable to registrations at this time, due to concerns about mass spammers who have attacked our forum in the past.
Accounts Will Not Go Inactive
There have been some concerns by some members who have not upgraded in a while that their accounts will go inactive during this period. Due to current events, will be suspend the inactive status for anyone that would have normally been moved to that status, so as not to interfere with any refund they might receive.
The New Site
Thanks to the hard work of our technical staff, committed to LifeClicks despite all the happenings of the past week, we will be launching the new site by the end of the day tomorrow. You will notice that the 12dp homepage will change at that time, to reflect our current situation. The homepage will have three main links, one for the forum, one for members to login and check their account states and member news, and one to visit our new site.
Thank You
I wanted to take this time to thank all of you for your thoughts, prayers, and expressions of support regarding the health of my father. He is now in stable condition and we continue to pray that he will not return to any critical state. I am truly blessed to have a family of 12dp members that cares. You make me proud to be in your company.
This is a challenging time for us all, but know that we are dedicated and focused on doing everything we can to insure these recent events are overcome and we can all move forward.
We thank you for your continued support during this time.
Charis
12dp Admin"
Well, that was obviously a 12DailyPro update. Quite positive news there, and guess what, here's some positive Alientrust news. Yes, I'll be throwing some E-Gold into their new incarnation as remember guys and girls, this was Stormpay's fault! (Well, 99% certain.) What a bit of irony from the autosurf world - a payment processor bringing down an autosurfer, not the autosurfer itself!
" Good Afternoon Everyone,
My apologies for not posting an update yesterday, but we really had nothing new to pass on.
We have come to a decision on where to go from here. Please understand that there is simply no way for us to please everyone, no matter what we decide to do there will be those that are no going to like it, and we understand that.
At the present time, our staff is puring through all Pending transactions and posting them back to your account balance so that we can get an accurate representation of the total damage we've incurred in this debacle.
Once this is completed, we will do a complete back up of all financial information pertaining to your account. At that point we will will clear all existing balances and keep the backup on file.
We will be keeping all the database referrals and members in place, just zeroing the member levels so that we can start fresh with a new payment processor.
WE WILL KEEP YOUR EXISTING MEMBER LEVEL AND PAYMENT INFO ON FILE FOR REPAYMENT AT A LATER DATE!
Once we get a total figure and know exactly what the damage is, we can then begin setting aside our profits in order to build a fund up to the total amount needed to refund all members. WE WILL NOT BE PROCESSING ANY EARNINGS ONLY AD BUY DOLLARS.
Please keep in mind folks that this will take some time, but we always keep our promises and we'll get this money refunded to you, even though we aren't the ones who stole it. Hopefully we can recover this through legal means and the process will go faster, but either way, we feel the same pain that all of you are feeling and we're in this with you 100%.
We'll also be ensuring that your Site Credits for your earlier purchases aren't affected, this way we are keeping our end of the bargain and providing exactly what you paid for, the advertising of your websites. Ultimately folks please remember, we're under no obligation to pay anyone to surf, we are indeed obligated to either deliver the traffic you purchased, or refund your money.
BUT... we're gonna do both! You will get your traffic, and you will get a refund. First the traffic, then the refund. As I said, just keep in mind that it will take some time for us to get back to a level where we can start getting these refunds out to you, BUT WE WILL NOT LET YOU DOWN!
So, tonight after midnight we'll get started on adjusting account balances and getting back on the road.
Right now you're asking, "What payment processors will you be taking?"
Once again, some will agree with this strategy, and some will not. But let me share with you why we got hit so hard with this and what we're doing to solve it moving forward.
Once of the main reasons we got hammered was because of our weekly commission system. In order to facilitate the weekly payout we needed to keep most of the funds from ad sales in our StormPay account in order to ensure we always had enough funds to pay the weekly commissions. Obviously, we had no way of knowing StormPay would do this to us after years of processing literally millions of dollars in fees through their company. But they have, and that's that.
So how to we improve the system so that this CAN'T happen again?
By keeping the money in the BANK! That's how. Here's how we're going to get it done.
By reading through everyone's posts there will be no way to satisfy everyone. We saw some good recommedations for processors, then a few posts later there would be someone who hated that site.
So after extensive searches and looking into quite a few payment venues we've decided to set up the following system.
Immediately tomorrow we'll begin taking E-Gold once again. They seem to have recovered nicely from their investigation and have solved most of the previous issues that concerned us most, other than the no-chargeback issue.
As soon as we get the new IPN's completed we'll begin taking Uniclear and AlertPay. Both of these companies have good reputations, and 0 complaints through the BBBonline.
As I said, we'll be accepting these as forms of payment, but we will be transferring all ad sales funds from these accounts daily to our bank which is Chase (formerly BankOne) and we will be paying out commissions bi-weekly via check directly from our bank through QChex.com.
After several days of deliberation it became clear that the ONLY way to keep from getting into this situation again was to let the bank control the money and not the processors. Using the QChex system, which has been dramatically improved with far greater security and verification will also us to send checks to all our members worldwide directly from our bank quickly and efficiently.
You as a member will be able to print our your checks directly to your printer via the web (you will need theproper printable check forms and magnetic ink, both of which a very inexpensive) within 24 hours, after which if you don't print the check out, it will be mailed directly to you.
Once again I know that some people will not like this situation, but folks you need to understand THE INDUSTRY IS BLEEDING BAD, and the only way for us to ensure the security of our money is to keep it in the bank. We all need to change the way we think about the industry, we need to get that idea of doing things the old way out of our heads and start thinking about how we can secure the industry for the future.
We all know that there's nothing illegal about our industry, we offer significant advertising value for your money, there is no more targeted advertising available online than the traffic exchange industry, period. We have real products and we pay commissions for the sales of those products.
So just to recap:
1. The database will be backed up with everyone's current member levels and credits and saved in order to refund members over time, then reset to 0 member levels to re-launch.
2. Ad credits will be available for viewing to fulfill advertising packages starting tomorrow.
3. We will be accepting new Ad Buys starting tomorrow through E-Gold, then in a few days time Uniclear and AlertPay will become available.
4. Commission checks will begin to be paid starting 1 week from this Friday directly from our Chase Bank account through QChex.com payment services.
Like I said several times I know some will not like this set up, but we have alot of confidence that this set up will be much more secure and safe over time as we move forward.
Thanks everyone and sorry once again that it took us so long to get this news to you, but we certainly had quite a lot of research to do to make sure we were making the right decision.
Have a great evening and we'll see you tomorrow.
Vince Kronlein
Executive Director
North Shore Media"
Booyah! Positive news there. If we can get even partial refunds from either 12DP and AT, I will consider them badasses in the Autosurf Hall Of Fame.
Till next time, adieu!
P.S. Almost forgot to mention that Got-Zip is charging ahead too, with renowned net advertiser, Joel Comm, having just released an awesome Ebook on them. Check it out over at - GotZip Uncovered.
First up some good news.
MPDW paid out 3.25% this week and honoured all withdrawal quests. If you've been checking out the negative campaign against them you will see that it seems the negative accusations have had holes poked through them. I still wouldn't peg them as a 'almost certainty' like NS-FG though, but still have a fair bit of faith.
Udachu paid me out too and I got my emailed statement. I'll stop updating you on these guys unless something goes wrong.
PixMeUp is getting there. Slowly! Backoffice should be complete for prelaunch signees soon.
The Neverending Stori is beginning to take off for me now - definitely an awesome opportunity.
And now, onto big news in another edition of the "Stormpay Causes Trouble For Us" digest.
Here's what Alientrust and 12DailyPro have to say about matters:
"StormPay
I am sure you are all understandably anxious to hear updates on our progress toward recovering our funds. Today, we were able to arrange to retain the attorney who will be representing us in this matter. He has outlined a strategy for attempting to get our funds released by StormPay by whatever means at our disposal. We hope for swift action in the matter and will keep you as informed as things unfold, to the extent that we can without compromising the case.
Refunds
We will begin issuing a few refunds this evening and will process a batch of refunds daily. The order of the refunds will be: 1) Remaining Egold/EMO 2)Remaining Egold/Money Order, 3)Compounded EMO, 4)EMO. Please note that because we are unsure of how fast we will be able to resolve the StormPay situation, nor what the outcome of our efforts will be, we cannot provide any kind of time frame by which these EMO refunds will be issued. Also, due to StormPay’s random refunds and double payments that they are conducting with our funds and without our input, we are unable to yet give an accurate assessment to you of how we will deal with the StormPay refunds. Our hope is that by the time EMO payouts (currently on Dec. 8 expiration), catch up with where we left off with StormPay withdrawals, (Dec 23 expiration), that we will have some resolution on the StormPay issue and can announce a plan and/or for StormPay refunds.
Ticket System
Tomorrow, we will be revamping the ticket system to meet our current circumstances. In light of what has occurred and the fact that our goal is to be able to refund all pending and active upgrades, we will be closing all account issue related tickets. The new ticket departments will meet our current situation as well as provide support for the new site. There will also be a department for any missing EMO upgrades. Because there is no way for us to verify missing StormPay at this time, these will have to wait until we are able to gain access to our account data there. We strongly urge that you not submit tickets asking about the current situation; we will be posting updates daily and sometimes several times a day regarding progress on these matters. Our support staff has been extremely reduced, so we can have more funds available for refunds and basic operations. So, inundating the tickets system will only slow our ability to respond to the specific ticket issues we deem vital at this time.
Forum
We have now made all areas of the forum viewable to all guests, so that all of you can read it. We are unable to registrations at this time, due to concerns about mass spammers who have attacked our forum in the past.
Accounts Will Not Go Inactive
There have been some concerns by some members who have not upgraded in a while that their accounts will go inactive during this period. Due to current events, will be suspend the inactive status for anyone that would have normally been moved to that status, so as not to interfere with any refund they might receive.
The New Site
Thanks to the hard work of our technical staff, committed to LifeClicks despite all the happenings of the past week, we will be launching the new site by the end of the day tomorrow. You will notice that the 12dp homepage will change at that time, to reflect our current situation. The homepage will have three main links, one for the forum, one for members to login and check their account states and member news, and one to visit our new site.
Thank You
I wanted to take this time to thank all of you for your thoughts, prayers, and expressions of support regarding the health of my father. He is now in stable condition and we continue to pray that he will not return to any critical state. I am truly blessed to have a family of 12dp members that cares. You make me proud to be in your company.
This is a challenging time for us all, but know that we are dedicated and focused on doing everything we can to insure these recent events are overcome and we can all move forward.
We thank you for your continued support during this time.
Charis
12dp Admin"
Well, that was obviously a 12DailyPro update. Quite positive news there, and guess what, here's some positive Alientrust news. Yes, I'll be throwing some E-Gold into their new incarnation as remember guys and girls, this was Stormpay's fault! (Well, 99% certain.) What a bit of irony from the autosurf world - a payment processor bringing down an autosurfer, not the autosurfer itself!
" Good Afternoon Everyone,
My apologies for not posting an update yesterday, but we really had nothing new to pass on.
We have come to a decision on where to go from here. Please understand that there is simply no way for us to please everyone, no matter what we decide to do there will be those that are no going to like it, and we understand that.
At the present time, our staff is puring through all Pending transactions and posting them back to your account balance so that we can get an accurate representation of the total damage we've incurred in this debacle.
Once this is completed, we will do a complete back up of all financial information pertaining to your account. At that point we will will clear all existing balances and keep the backup on file.
We will be keeping all the database referrals and members in place, just zeroing the member levels so that we can start fresh with a new payment processor.
WE WILL KEEP YOUR EXISTING MEMBER LEVEL AND PAYMENT INFO ON FILE FOR REPAYMENT AT A LATER DATE!
Once we get a total figure and know exactly what the damage is, we can then begin setting aside our profits in order to build a fund up to the total amount needed to refund all members. WE WILL NOT BE PROCESSING ANY EARNINGS ONLY AD BUY DOLLARS.
Please keep in mind folks that this will take some time, but we always keep our promises and we'll get this money refunded to you, even though we aren't the ones who stole it. Hopefully we can recover this through legal means and the process will go faster, but either way, we feel the same pain that all of you are feeling and we're in this with you 100%.
We'll also be ensuring that your Site Credits for your earlier purchases aren't affected, this way we are keeping our end of the bargain and providing exactly what you paid for, the advertising of your websites. Ultimately folks please remember, we're under no obligation to pay anyone to surf, we are indeed obligated to either deliver the traffic you purchased, or refund your money.
BUT... we're gonna do both! You will get your traffic, and you will get a refund. First the traffic, then the refund. As I said, just keep in mind that it will take some time for us to get back to a level where we can start getting these refunds out to you, BUT WE WILL NOT LET YOU DOWN!
So, tonight after midnight we'll get started on adjusting account balances and getting back on the road.
Right now you're asking, "What payment processors will you be taking?"
Once again, some will agree with this strategy, and some will not. But let me share with you why we got hit so hard with this and what we're doing to solve it moving forward.
Once of the main reasons we got hammered was because of our weekly commission system. In order to facilitate the weekly payout we needed to keep most of the funds from ad sales in our StormPay account in order to ensure we always had enough funds to pay the weekly commissions. Obviously, we had no way of knowing StormPay would do this to us after years of processing literally millions of dollars in fees through their company. But they have, and that's that.
So how to we improve the system so that this CAN'T happen again?
By keeping the money in the BANK! That's how. Here's how we're going to get it done.
By reading through everyone's posts there will be no way to satisfy everyone. We saw some good recommedations for processors, then a few posts later there would be someone who hated that site.
So after extensive searches and looking into quite a few payment venues we've decided to set up the following system.
Immediately tomorrow we'll begin taking E-Gold once again. They seem to have recovered nicely from their investigation and have solved most of the previous issues that concerned us most, other than the no-chargeback issue.
As soon as we get the new IPN's completed we'll begin taking Uniclear and AlertPay. Both of these companies have good reputations, and 0 complaints through the BBBonline.
As I said, we'll be accepting these as forms of payment, but we will be transferring all ad sales funds from these accounts daily to our bank which is Chase (formerly BankOne) and we will be paying out commissions bi-weekly via check directly from our bank through QChex.com.
After several days of deliberation it became clear that the ONLY way to keep from getting into this situation again was to let the bank control the money and not the processors. Using the QChex system, which has been dramatically improved with far greater security and verification will also us to send checks to all our members worldwide directly from our bank quickly and efficiently.
You as a member will be able to print our your checks directly to your printer via the web (you will need theproper printable check forms and magnetic ink, both of which a very inexpensive) within 24 hours, after which if you don't print the check out, it will be mailed directly to you.
Once again I know that some people will not like this situation, but folks you need to understand THE INDUSTRY IS BLEEDING BAD, and the only way for us to ensure the security of our money is to keep it in the bank. We all need to change the way we think about the industry, we need to get that idea of doing things the old way out of our heads and start thinking about how we can secure the industry for the future.
We all know that there's nothing illegal about our industry, we offer significant advertising value for your money, there is no more targeted advertising available online than the traffic exchange industry, period. We have real products and we pay commissions for the sales of those products.
So just to recap:
1. The database will be backed up with everyone's current member levels and credits and saved in order to refund members over time, then reset to 0 member levels to re-launch.
2. Ad credits will be available for viewing to fulfill advertising packages starting tomorrow.
3. We will be accepting new Ad Buys starting tomorrow through E-Gold, then in a few days time Uniclear and AlertPay will become available.
4. Commission checks will begin to be paid starting 1 week from this Friday directly from our Chase Bank account through QChex.com payment services.
Like I said several times I know some will not like this set up, but we have alot of confidence that this set up will be much more secure and safe over time as we move forward.
Thanks everyone and sorry once again that it took us so long to get this news to you, but we certainly had quite a lot of research to do to make sure we were making the right decision.
Have a great evening and we'll see you tomorrow.
Vince Kronlein
Executive Director
North Shore Media"
Booyah! Positive news there. If we can get even partial refunds from either 12DP and AT, I will consider them badasses in the Autosurf Hall Of Fame.
Till next time, adieu!
P.S. Almost forgot to mention that Got-Zip is charging ahead too, with renowned net advertiser, Joel Comm, having just released an awesome Ebook on them. Check it out over at - GotZip Uncovered.
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