State Of Play - Online Investment Opportunities
In an effort to streamline and provide a one stop shop of information I am collating all the programs which I either consider legitimate opportunities, or possibly legitimate, into the one column in the sidebar - "Online Investment Opportunities."
Purpose
This page is meant to play as a reference and an overview of the programs I have as my 'real' investments online that can be publically revealed and are HYIP in nature. It is hopefully going to illustrate over time that money can be made - through legitimate means - in this arena and that there ARE real programs out there.
So, here's a state of play on my current opinion of them all, plus little tidbits of news gleaned here and there.
Feederfund
Feederfund are now private and membership is closed. There is rumination that they may reopen invite only at a limited rate at some point in the future. Either way, they continue to impress me and give me the jollies.
They have been the victims of strong DDOSes lately, like pretty much everywhere else.
Rating: 9.5/10. (Nothing's perfect!)
Verdict: Although not as transparent as NS-FG for example, Feederfund consistently, well, kick ass, and I've never really seen a sign to suggest they are not real.
NS-FG
NS-FG are also closed to the public as of now. Everything continues to be legit with these guys, though a lot of scam-runners try to target NS-FG and make out as if they are fake or the fact that they no longer post daily results somehow negates their legitimacy. One big exponent of this attack-style is of course the now sullied MPDW.
Much of the information is private, but you can still get in if you want a Managed Account. The minimum is $25,000. Visit NS-FG for details.
Pooled accounts are also popping up, some legit and some not. So if you missed your opportunity and you look hard enough you could still get in.
Rating: 8.5/10.
Verdict: They're real. They've had a few lessor trading months, and I'm sure we'll see a bunch of great trading months again. Time and tide. Currently they are undergoing some changes which will see more effective trading and less fees.
FX-Experts
FX-Experts are another program which have consistently shown themselves to be real to me and others within the community. Search my blog for more information and links.
You can still get into FX-Experts, and they have a $100 minimum. After that, you may invest as little as $1 on top of your $100.
I see a lot of people investing the minimum $100 and no more - guys, I have to ask you why not, especially when you can add so little to your account?
I see people splashing thousands on dodgy autosurfs, but barely a ton ($100) on something with so much going for it and seeming legitimacy as FX-Experts.
I will now address some of the negative rumours as of late, and attempt to clarify:
I have a fair bit of insight into FX-Experts, not as much as some people, but not all of this information can be addressed publically. A previous rumour has been addressed about the trader having consistent losing months. This was incorrect and addressed previously as I said.
To recap: He swing trades a lot. OPEN trades where 30% negative but then swung back up. I suppose that basically sums it up.
The current rumour is that payments are coming from the reserve and that this is a bad thing.
I will try to address this without giving away sensitive information. Their trader often was getting massive gain months - 50% or so. We, the FX-Experts investors were getting about 12%. The Reserve Fund was built for us the investor out of these massive gains. When the trader has a lessor month, we are then paid from the Reserve Fund. This is to ensure a consistent experience for us as the investor, so we are seeing positive gains every day calculated off the reserve fund and the previous month or so's profit.
The daily figures are NOT accurate daily representations of the daily trading. The presence of 0.5% daily lately does indicate a dip in recent times. But this is real trading, and there will be dips and there will be highs.
Apparently the Reserve Fund could pay us out for months to come, without any positive trading at all.
I will not say any more than this basic overview. Hopefully that will reassure you. The program is not 'in trouble.' It's just the nature of real trading, we take a losing month once in a while, and FX-Experts is designed to give us a consistent experience so we are not exposed to the negative and see a consistent positive.
Remember this: the plan is that if the program ever did fold you would NOT be left out in the cold.
Rating: 8/10.
Verdict: You not a member yet? Why not! Low minimum, low reinvestment minimums, you can withdraw your principal and it's based on real trading as far as we can tell. There's a risk to it but it's a REAL risk.
UdachuInvest
UdachuFund
UdachuInvest is relatively new. They just posted their first month's profit and APOLOGISED for it being 'low.' Uh, guys, it was double figures!
The Udachu's have requested that they not be discussed in forums or on blogs in any great detail so if you want more information (as well as invite codes which you will require) please email me at chancer@safe-mail.
Rating: 6.5/10.
Verdict: Udachu are a tricky one to rate. On one hand they seemingly reveal a lot, and on the other - they don't. However, you can go visit them in Panama, they have a trading floor, they will apparently reveal stuff to you in person, and with more money you can get into different programs of theirs as well as more information. I have not been privy to this info so I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt and a 6.5/10. They are seemingly real, solid programs.
Private Program One
If you look at the sidebar you can put two and two together and work out which private program this is. They wish to be kept very private. They have been around for over two years.
If you were REALLY looking for information you could always try emailing me...
Rating: 5.5/10.
Verdict: A solid little program. They don't give away too many specifics but what they do say seems to extend beyond pure bluff and double-talk. You can't argue with their track record either. They are currently undergoing some superficial changes.
Private Investors Union
Semi-private/private as well now. Sensatrust approved. I wrote a lot about them recently so I won't recap here - just try a search.
Rating: 5.5/10.
Verdict: Another solid little program. They showed quite a few documents and proofs to SensaTrust. To me, they haven't acted in any unreasonable manner yet. They used to earn some of their revenue off of DXGold/DxInOne which obviously ain't such a big revenue earner for them anymore! :)
The NeverendingStori
I've written so much about this Global Mutual offshoot that I'm not going to recap it here (for now.) I'll fill it in later on...
As of now, they continue to fix their problems.
Rating: 5.5/10.
Verdict: Great in theory, when it's all working (technically and financially.) We've seen glimpses of the promise but then so many weeks of hardship roll by that it's hard to remember the good times!
Global Mutual
Ah, good old Global Mutual. The Aussie underdog. I've written so much about Gordon Doherty and his venture capital schemes...
But just today I come disappointed. He has just revealed that one of Global Mutual's 'investments' is SOLID INVESTMENT the most obvious scam this side of 1000 Percent Daily. Sure, it can be a great ride, a ponzi, and you can make a lot of money - but a lot of people also lose out.
It is NOT the thing to be backing your own program with - I must admit I am disappointed in this piggybacking onto an obvious scam.
Having said that, I also know Gordon is making money a lot of legitimate ways as well, using real life business and venture capital. It's my like of the Aussie Underdog, and the knowledge that they've got quite a bit of 'real' stuff going on that isn't piggybacking, that means they're still on my real opportunities list.
Rating: 5/10.
Verdict: I'm disappointed in the reveal of the Solid Investment connection, but how deep does it go? It looks like Gordon only put $1000 in originally so theoretically he could have just put a bit of play money in there for a punt to help Global Mutual out. However, if he is going into things like Solid Investment with serious intentions I have to seriously question GM. For now, my faith remains and I hope they continue to sort out their technical problems. I can't rate them above a solid 5 however due to the tech problems, sporadic support and strange reveals like the Solid Investment connection.
Purpose
This page is meant to play as a reference and an overview of the programs I have as my 'real' investments online that can be publically revealed and are HYIP in nature. It is hopefully going to illustrate over time that money can be made - through legitimate means - in this arena and that there ARE real programs out there.
So, here's a state of play on my current opinion of them all, plus little tidbits of news gleaned here and there.
Feederfund
Feederfund are now private and membership is closed. There is rumination that they may reopen invite only at a limited rate at some point in the future. Either way, they continue to impress me and give me the jollies.
They have been the victims of strong DDOSes lately, like pretty much everywhere else.
Rating: 9.5/10. (Nothing's perfect!)
Verdict: Although not as transparent as NS-FG for example, Feederfund consistently, well, kick ass, and I've never really seen a sign to suggest they are not real.
NS-FG
NS-FG are also closed to the public as of now. Everything continues to be legit with these guys, though a lot of scam-runners try to target NS-FG and make out as if they are fake or the fact that they no longer post daily results somehow negates their legitimacy. One big exponent of this attack-style is of course the now sullied MPDW.
Much of the information is private, but you can still get in if you want a Managed Account. The minimum is $25,000. Visit NS-FG for details.
Pooled accounts are also popping up, some legit and some not. So if you missed your opportunity and you look hard enough you could still get in.
Rating: 8.5/10.
Verdict: They're real. They've had a few lessor trading months, and I'm sure we'll see a bunch of great trading months again. Time and tide. Currently they are undergoing some changes which will see more effective trading and less fees.
FX-Experts
FX-Experts are another program which have consistently shown themselves to be real to me and others within the community. Search my blog for more information and links.
You can still get into FX-Experts, and they have a $100 minimum. After that, you may invest as little as $1 on top of your $100.
I see a lot of people investing the minimum $100 and no more - guys, I have to ask you why not, especially when you can add so little to your account?
I see people splashing thousands on dodgy autosurfs, but barely a ton ($100) on something with so much going for it and seeming legitimacy as FX-Experts.
I will now address some of the negative rumours as of late, and attempt to clarify:
I have a fair bit of insight into FX-Experts, not as much as some people, but not all of this information can be addressed publically. A previous rumour has been addressed about the trader having consistent losing months. This was incorrect and addressed previously as I said.
To recap: He swing trades a lot. OPEN trades where 30% negative but then swung back up. I suppose that basically sums it up.
The current rumour is that payments are coming from the reserve and that this is a bad thing.
I will try to address this without giving away sensitive information. Their trader often was getting massive gain months - 50% or so. We, the FX-Experts investors were getting about 12%. The Reserve Fund was built for us the investor out of these massive gains. When the trader has a lessor month, we are then paid from the Reserve Fund. This is to ensure a consistent experience for us as the investor, so we are seeing positive gains every day calculated off the reserve fund and the previous month or so's profit.
The daily figures are NOT accurate daily representations of the daily trading. The presence of 0.5% daily lately does indicate a dip in recent times. But this is real trading, and there will be dips and there will be highs.
Apparently the Reserve Fund could pay us out for months to come, without any positive trading at all.
I will not say any more than this basic overview. Hopefully that will reassure you. The program is not 'in trouble.' It's just the nature of real trading, we take a losing month once in a while, and FX-Experts is designed to give us a consistent experience so we are not exposed to the negative and see a consistent positive.
Remember this: the plan is that if the program ever did fold you would NOT be left out in the cold.
Rating: 8/10.
Verdict: You not a member yet? Why not! Low minimum, low reinvestment minimums, you can withdraw your principal and it's based on real trading as far as we can tell. There's a risk to it but it's a REAL risk.
UdachuInvest
UdachuFund
UdachuInvest is relatively new. They just posted their first month's profit and APOLOGISED for it being 'low.' Uh, guys, it was double figures!
The Udachu's have requested that they not be discussed in forums or on blogs in any great detail so if you want more information (as well as invite codes which you will require) please email me at chancer@safe-mail.
Rating: 6.5/10.
Verdict: Udachu are a tricky one to rate. On one hand they seemingly reveal a lot, and on the other - they don't. However, you can go visit them in Panama, they have a trading floor, they will apparently reveal stuff to you in person, and with more money you can get into different programs of theirs as well as more information. I have not been privy to this info so I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt and a 6.5/10. They are seemingly real, solid programs.
Private Program One
If you look at the sidebar you can put two and two together and work out which private program this is. They wish to be kept very private. They have been around for over two years.
If you were REALLY looking for information you could always try emailing me...
Rating: 5.5/10.
Verdict: A solid little program. They don't give away too many specifics but what they do say seems to extend beyond pure bluff and double-talk. You can't argue with their track record either. They are currently undergoing some superficial changes.
Private Investors Union
Semi-private/private as well now. Sensatrust approved. I wrote a lot about them recently so I won't recap here - just try a search.
Rating: 5.5/10.
Verdict: Another solid little program. They showed quite a few documents and proofs to SensaTrust. To me, they haven't acted in any unreasonable manner yet. They used to earn some of their revenue off of DXGold/DxInOne which obviously ain't such a big revenue earner for them anymore! :)
The NeverendingStori
I've written so much about this Global Mutual offshoot that I'm not going to recap it here (for now.) I'll fill it in later on...
As of now, they continue to fix their problems.
Rating: 5.5/10.
Verdict: Great in theory, when it's all working (technically and financially.) We've seen glimpses of the promise but then so many weeks of hardship roll by that it's hard to remember the good times!
Global Mutual
Ah, good old Global Mutual. The Aussie underdog. I've written so much about Gordon Doherty and his venture capital schemes...
But just today I come disappointed. He has just revealed that one of Global Mutual's 'investments' is SOLID INVESTMENT the most obvious scam this side of 1000 Percent Daily. Sure, it can be a great ride, a ponzi, and you can make a lot of money - but a lot of people also lose out.
It is NOT the thing to be backing your own program with - I must admit I am disappointed in this piggybacking onto an obvious scam.
Having said that, I also know Gordon is making money a lot of legitimate ways as well, using real life business and venture capital. It's my like of the Aussie Underdog, and the knowledge that they've got quite a bit of 'real' stuff going on that isn't piggybacking, that means they're still on my real opportunities list.
Rating: 5/10.
Verdict: I'm disappointed in the reveal of the Solid Investment connection, but how deep does it go? It looks like Gordon only put $1000 in originally so theoretically he could have just put a bit of play money in there for a punt to help Global Mutual out. However, if he is going into things like Solid Investment with serious intentions I have to seriously question GM. For now, my faith remains and I hope they continue to sort out their technical problems. I can't rate them above a solid 5 however due to the tech problems, sporadic support and strange reveals like the Solid Investment connection.
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