Windfall Of Publicity

Okay, E-Gold had a glitch earlier today that saw gold tracking at 300 bucks an ounce rather than the $600+ area it should have been.

There was much panic in the areas that still don’t understand how E-Gold works (you own GOLD not US DOLLARS in an effort to create a global currency, peeps) but one thing this temporary glitch has done is given Aut0Surf (with a zero!) an awesome opportunity to jump on the bandwagon.

Seriously, this is some great free publicity for them, and I’m impressed to see ‘Scott’ their admin jumping on it so quick and running around the forums spreading the good news…

This glitch runs onto the field with perfect timing to give Aut0Surf a real. life. example. of the positives of using grams. Score for them.

“A few hours ago all e-Gold users saw first hand what could happen if there was a sudden price change in gold, and the panic it caused.

Due to a still unexplained error by e-Gold.com (if someone knows a true answer, please email me) mass panic was caused due to e-gold suddenly quoting Gold at $320 per oz, while the actual world markets were still trading at $620 oz.

In basic terms this meant when people logged into their accounts they saw that half of the money in USD had vanished.

I was on the MoneyMakerGroup forum at the time and the thread which was discussing this soon had over 100 people in, all shocked that there e-Gold balance in USD had been cut in half.

You can see the mass panic here

Money Maker Thread Example

However, during this error which lasted about 90 mins, one thing did not change. That being the amount of gold you actually owned. The weight of gold did not change it stayed the same.

How can a sudden drop in the price of Gold affect the HYIP/Aut0Surfs out there?

Well, let me explain.

Lets say you were in a autosurf and had a pending payout request for $620. If the owner of the surf had paid this request before the e-Gold Hic-up, the admin would of sent $620 to the member. This $620 would of weighed 1 oz of gold.

If the owner of the surf had paid this request during the time that e-gold got it wrong, the admin of the surf would of sent $620 to the member, which of course is just under 2 oz of gold.

Now, like what happened during this serious error by e-Gold, when the price corrected itself and e-Gold was showing Gold back at $620 oz what would of happened?

Well the member who got paid $620 (just under 2 oz) would now be displaying approx $1200 in USD value for the payment which was made, because the surf admin had to send him just under 2 oz of gold to cover the $620 payment. That member is probably thinking he got a good deal, and is not thinking about others and the surf admin and how this could result in the surfsite closing and people losing money.

So how did this affect the surf program?

1.Lets assume the surf site had 3oz of gold in there account, and gold was at a $620oz. The USD value would of been $1860.

2.The e-Gold error then occured, and they were quoting gold at $320oz. The USD value would of been $960.

3.The request for $620 came in and the admin paid.

4.The surf site actually paid this amount, to cover the $620 payment 1.93oz of gold would of been transfered to the members account. Leaving the surf site 1.07 oz of gold with a USD value of $342.40.

5.Once e-Golds price had been corrected and went back to $620oz, the surf admins account, still having 1.07oz of gold would show a USD value of $663.40

Now look at 1, 3 & 5, Can you see anything wrong?

$1860 ( Original Balance) Minus $620 (Payment) = $1240. However the actual balance is $663.40

$600 difference just from one payment. This difference may result in the site closing as the admin can not afford to pay out to the members.

Conclusion.

I know first hand by the number of emails I have got, that alot of people do not understand how e-Gold works and find the whole Gram Concept confussing.

If you sat back and actually thought about just how e-Gold works, its easy to see how random and sudden price changes of Gold can affect any HYIP/AutoSurf that deal in USD.

Using Grams as a ‘Unit’ of currency not only protects the admin of a site, by securing themself from any sudden changes, it can also benifit the end users as a set weight of gold is transferd and not the USD value.

If any member finds this totally confussing and would like more examples and a clearer explanation please get in contact.

Scott.”

And yes, he goes onto explain gold/grams/etc. again.

WHY you may ask? Well, many people STILL don’t get how it all works (not just Aut0Surf, but E-Gold in general) so I suppose repetition is the only.

Though I know you, dear readers, are smart cookies and caught the drift long ago!

Aut0Surf.

CIM Update

Here's a self-explanatory Community Investors Mutual update, which basically means I don't have to write some lame commentary where I try to be 'humourous.'

"Dear Members,

We have received numerous emails from existing as well as potential members questioning the need for keeping personal information about themselves. It seems there is a general preference that names, addresses and phone numbers not be included in members records and there has been a consistent clamor that these details be removed from our customer database.

After much discussion among the senior members of our club it has been decided that for the safety and privacy of all members we shall no longer maintain in our database personal information other than the email address and e-gold account number of each member.

All names of members, addresses and phone numbers will be erased from our system and permanently deleted from our files and databases. Members will be identified solely by their email addresses and egold numbers. We will still ask for the country of residence purely for statistical purposes.

Please ensure that all your communications (such purchase/sale of MPUs) with us contain your email address and egold account number for identification. If you have any questions please contact us via email.

Admin"

And in other news...

On a side note, Global Ads Pro raised their maximum another $100 to $1200. Usually I don't pay too much attention to strategies and the like with surfs, but I gotta put my thinking cap on with the new terms in regard to payment. Some people are a little annoyed that it's been sprung on us like this, but like Trish said "more or less" 45%, and as was seen just a day or two ago, she relented to member's ideas about helping out those who lost E-Gold so if there's too much of an outrage... I'm sure we'll see a solution.

(Please note that Chancer is not actually SURE. He just guesses we will!)

And NSFG ended the month with 3.75% (5% gross.) This was the locked in percent and although it was looking pretty sweet there for a while during the last few weeks suddenly it's back down to 3.75%.

Ah well, better than a bank and at least we know it's real!

Surfin' USA

Well well well, the autosurf updates comes thick and fast these days, and of course I have the latest Aut0Surf (with a zero!) and GAP updates (seeing as their the ones I’m in!)

First up, the biggest new is GlobalAdsPro’s latest changes.

Before I get onto that, I was paid promptly once again, and I’ve got a fair bit of faith in them game-wise so I’m going to stick with them despite these changes which limit the short term earning potential a little.

Anyway, the changes are that basically they’ve adopted the increasingly prevalent approach of having current upgrades affect your ability to cashout - it may be troublesome somewhat, but I suppose if the motives are pure it can add to the longevity of the program a huge amount… So as usual there’s pros and cons.

“It is your choice, folks…I either stay in the mailbox, or do payouts…can’t do both and at the moment you seem to only see what you want to see in the update as nobody appears to have noticed this: “PLEASE NOTE: a “more-or-less” approach will be adopted for the next few payout runs”

August 28th expiries are being processed now

IMPORTANT CHANGE:
A lot of work AND thinking has been done this end.
I do hope that not many of you wish to see me dead [as in “dead person” who forgot to eat and sleep] nor dead GAP [as in the admin had no time left for business but to process payouts]. The following is to aide both to stay alive:

1. Effective immediately, in order to receive payouts, your remaining active upgrades will need to add up to AT LEAST 45% of your pending payout.
for example:
your pending payout is $378
your remaining upgrades will need to add up to AT LEAST $$170.10

2. 3rd upgrade option is added - to help you ease into the change and spread yourselves a little.

PLEASE NOTE: a “more-or-less” approach will be adopted for the next few payout runs (so if your remaining upgrades are around the 45% mark, you’ll be fine). However, if you have been doing the $1 thing while awaiting a $1260 payout, you’ll need to change your ways, I’m afraid.

We’ve got a good thing going here and I trust you realise this. I am a rather dedicated person and, like it or not, there must be something right I’ve been doing for the past few years to keep me still around and not burning of shame.

Kind regards to all
Trish ”

Now onto the Aut0Surf updates…

I was paid very promptly by these guys once again, and their updates are a little less news-worthy than GAP’s and much more of an explanatory nature…

“It seems that many people are still finding it hard to work out how much in USD one Gram of gold is.

If you goto Aut0Surf you should see a live chart displayed in the first block of text on the right. The chart shows you the live and current price of Gold that is actually being traded around the globes markets.

As the price of gold fluctuates with changes in exchange rates so does your balance in E-Gold, however the AVERAGE price is approx $20.

You might of seen that your E-Gold balance actually increases and decreases in the USD balance that is shown this is die to the live price changes E-Gold work on.

You can tell what weight of gold you have by logging into your account and viewing the balance, You will see a section called Equiv.Grams, and underneath this a figure. This figure is the weight of gold you have in Grams.

Now for example lets say you have 2.06 Grams of gold in your account and at the time of viewing your balance the price of gold was $20 Per Gram, you would then be displaying a Value (USD) of $41.20.

Example 1

Now imagine that you had no other transactions and the next time you logged into your account your Value(USD) shows $43.45, you might think something is wrong with your e-gold account as you have gained an extra $2.25. Well infact there is nothing wrong with your account, what has actually happened is the price of gold has rose to $21.092 per gram.

Example 2

This of course can go the other way. If you had logged in and found your USD Value was $38.50 you might be alarmed and think that someone has hacked your account. You might be wondering where the difference of $2.70 has gone. Well again, its gone no where, all that has happened is the price of gold has dropped to $18.68. All the time in both example your weight of gold has not changed it has always been 2.06 Grams.

Now imagine the amount of money an sucessful autosurf takes in. This figure can sometime be very large. For this example lets imagine the price of gold is $20 per Gram and the autosurf has 600 grams of Gold. Of course by now you should be able to work out that the USD value of the account would be $12,000.

Exmple 3

As in Example 2, let imagine the price of gold dropped from $20 per gram to $18.68. Now the actual weight would still be the same (600 Grams) but the autosurfs USD value would be $11,208.

This means that a drop in the price of gold has affected the autosurfs USD value by $792. This USD value has just vanished from the account and there is nothing the admin could of done. This $792 might of been your payout!!!!

Summary

The balance shown in your E-Gold account is based on the actual price of Gold per Gram. Everyone who has a e-Gold account has to understand this. The weight of gold you actually owns never changes but the USD value does depending on this price.

By running a program (Aut0Surf) that works on weight (grams) prevents any sudden change in the price of gold from affecting the program. This means the program is more stable and in a far better finacial position.

Please read the following post made by one of my members,

Money Maker Thread

Hope this clears up alot of the concerns.

Scott.”

I have noticed a lot of people still not really understanding the grams concept, or even E-Gold itself… So hopefully this’ll help a few of the more befuddled members!

Ciao y’all.

GAP Tells Us We Rock!

Earlier today I theoriezed that Trish of Global Ads Pro might relent and do something to help those who were affected by the injection attack and lost their E-Gold to the hacker’s account.

Whaddya know, I was right!

Here’s the official word:

“I read your suggestions and you guys ROCK! - I will be taking care of setting up a “help-a-mate” egold account and the funds collected there will be used to help out those who lost funds to hackers while participating in GAP. Can you trust me? Well, you’ll need to judge for yourself - I feel quite comfortable with my ethics and have been for the past few years online, though
It’s another hectic day for me today, so I’ll be taking care of the above sometime late tonight.

Also, I’ll be adding a page and link in the menu above to that page - the page will contain list of programs where, if you wish, you could participate and know you are helping GAP and everyone here.
Means I will not have to send out any emails [a fella was not too happy with last one, even though Itried to make it as gentle and clear as possible, that it was purely as a matter of factly stating a re-birth of a program, whose owner I happen to have exchanged communication in the past. - btw, the fella was refunded promptly his $1000+ … I really don’t have time to enter into any discussions of what’s right and wrong when it comes to little issues like that. I’m here to help all make a bit of pocket money, not to make my life miserable].”

Aw, how nice! *puppy dog eyes* (Rock, indeed we do!)

Global Ads Pro continues to impress (compared to Generic Surf #9000 that is.)

Global Ads Pro Gets Injected

Global Ads Pro was victim of what is commonly known as an injection attack for a little while there yesterday.

Basically, someone changes something whilst the rest of the site remains the same. Usually it's the E-Gold number... so here's a special warning in bold/

Please always be extra sure that it is the correct E-Gold account you are spending too, no matter the program.

See, bold makes it important.

Anyway, here's the update:

" Payouts for Aug. 26th expiries are now complete

Please, take note of our egold number: 2703877 as it has been right from the beginning.

Guys, as much as I'd love to be able to just credit those whose payments were stolen, I just can't. I am as upset as those affected..what do we do peeps? what do we do? :((

August 24th payouts are now complete as well as August 25th

Please see FAQ question 1 for current processing times.
Please, be notified: Neither GAP's employees, nor myself, may be held responsible for your purchase errors, such as funds being stolen by hackers.
Please, again, take careful note of our egold account number for purchases as should appear during your spend: 2703877
Please, kindly notify us ASAP, should you notice any change to the payment interface.
Thank you for being diligent,
Sadly
Trish
admin @ GAP"

In some ways, it is fair enough that people won't be credited as it is good for the longevity of the program. It is often stressed on basically every surf site to ensure the E-Gold number is correct - it is our responsibility (well, at least 50% our responsibility!) just one one we often forget. However, I'm sure there are a few people who blindly spent and lost their money - so perhaps from that perspective it may not seem so fair! It's all a matter of balance, and many members are suggesting a slightly larger fee be taken off of our payouts to make a fund to pay those who were duped.

Either way, I'm still confident in GAP's ability to keep kicking ass and taking names, though this has acted as a refresher course in reminding me to always check the E-Gold account.

I'll be double checking - and I hope you guys will be too!

Random Wrap Up

About time for a tidbit filled random wrap up I think...

FX-Experts... You not in? Why not. You throwing heaps of money into some scam, but leaving the bare minimum in FX-Experts? Why! Seriously, you can reinvest as little as a dollar, and it's better than throwing that money down the drain with ponzi after ponzi as I see many people continuing to do. Playing games is fun, but make sure it's in moderation!

Aut0Surf and GlobalAdsPro... These surfs are kicking butt and taking names. Just thought I'd point out that if you joined Aut0Surf (with a zero!) ("with a zero!" copyright Chancer) now, you could still grab your two cashouts for the month... As the two cashouts each month are calendar month, not month-from-when-you-join. GAP seems to really be catching on now.

And in another time-is-running-out offer, Global Online Depository is still offering their 25% bonus + compounding offer, so if you want to jump onto this ship, now is really the time - as in a few days (I think it ends end of August, from memory) this bonus will no longer reply.

They remain high on my list of "HYIPs I like" and they have given lots of stuff out to chew on, and ponder if they are real, but until I get a chance to follow up some more (remember last time I tried Buck Hunter was away and I was sick AND lazy) they remain purely "HYIP." I see a lot of people being 'suckered' in - photos can easily be faked and doctored, or even just random photos of people unrelated to the program for example.

They're making big claims about 'going public' and listing on the SEC but remember people - this is all just words.

Having said that, there is a good chance, better by the day, that they are real. But as of now, remember - don't believe what is spoon fed to you at face value.

Either way, they're looking like a great opportunity.

Diggos has gone quiet and quiet possibly stalled as I have previously mentioned, but I also think, so far this program has been somewhat anomalous. Remember that before it opened in its current incarnation "Peter" came back from the dead so to speak and refunded members. So who knows - this could be another part of the 'master plan' so to speak... If it was, it'd probably be a chance for "Peter" to kick out his definition of whiners who are bad for the program (those who ask questions :) .)

It's not likely, but hey, it's minutely possible he could return!

And thus ends this random wrap up.

Aut0Surf With A Zero Interview

So, here's my mini Aut0Surf (with a zero!) interview. I'll add a few comments here and there. My comments (besides questions) will be in italics.

1. What inspired you to start up an Aut0Surf?

I had been very active in the PTR/PTC side of the money making business for several years, and recently I matured into the 'Big Boy' arena, even though the PTC side gave some good returns of about $900 per month per site.

Phew, he was pretty handy at the old PTC if he was netting that much! Or he had a lot of bloody time on his hands. :)

PTC had taken a major turn for the worse, with alot of the feeds bringing in new rules, and the ever increasing issue with cheaters saw the average price per click drop. The PTR was mainly used for advertising and was used to build good downlines in the PTC's I was in.

In the past I have moaned about various sites, with poor design, poor plans, non communicating admins, silly domain names, ridiculous ROI's etc etc.

I got into a good deep chat about the whole industry with a good online friend (Hi Bro), who actually told me to shut the **** Up or do something to see how easy it is. So I thought I would. That afternoon I started thinking about what site I would run and decided on a Surf as the life of the Surf outlasts the life of the HYIP, even though they are based on the same concept.

I like the honesty of his answers so far. And his use of "put up or shut up." :)

2. Why Aut0Surf with a zero?

I get angry with the amount of stupid domains being used (same here man!), and people actually trying to convince others that they had a real business. I did not want this for my site, I just wanted to run a Surf with a domain that did not give any false impressions or hope to the masses who believe that a site called FX-xxxxx.com actually invest in Forex and return 20% Each Day.

You see names like FX-Experts, ForexSurfing, blah blah Investments etc etc all the time. I just sat there and started going through various domains I had put on paper and tried Aut0Surf and it was available, and it looked good, so I registered the domain straight away.

I'll give him a pass on the slight disrespect to my old chestnut FX Experts there, as he is merely using it to illustrate naming conventions...

It gives no false hope, no mentions of the dreaded Forex, did not give any impressions that it was a real business etc etc.

Teh DREADED Forex! However I am enjoying the honesty. We all know that 99.9% of sites that claim to be backed by "teh forex" are full of it (not including that select handful of quality such as, well, FX-Experts for example!)

3. Grams is a good idea - you don't fear any associations with MPDW and their gram system? Although I suppose every surf that uses USD could be associated with every scam that uses USD, but when something is different, sometimes people make the association with something else that has stood out!

To be honest I have never heard of them. Just googled it and I have read several of the posts on the talkgold thread.

The idea of the gram structure was simple. I was a member of CS (compact Surf), and I did make a profit. When it ended I noticed the excuses they gave and actually thought at the time that a sudden rise and fall of the price of gold could really affect a surf that had a large reserve. I worked some examples out and notice that a medium price change could affect the funds of the average surf.

I don't think that the majority of people understand that the online currency we all use (e-Gold) is actually based on the price of gold. I still see people post on forums, asking why there gold balance changes!!! Unreal if you ask me.

Too true. Many people are not realizing of this fact.

When I came to actually start planning Aut0Surf I noticed that alot of admins/ex admins were still talking about bringing in the 'Gram' structure. I was really shocked that it had not been done already, and thought that if I was going to run this surf then I wanted something different.

4. How do you plan to keep on standing out in the 'marketplace?'

Good question, and I suppose one that every admin finds hard to answer. I have not got unlimited funds for advertising, although I have got a set amount. To stand out in the market you need to be different then the hundreds of 'others' out there. I feel the 'Gram' structure is different and helps Aut0Surf stand out from the crowd.

People need to keep seeing the mention of 'Aut0Surf' be it on forums, or by banner advertising. I have active thread in some of the popular forums as some people will not visit any other forum then the one they are used to.

MoneyMakerGroup
TalkGold
KingofDollars
EMarketCafe
DreamTeamMoney
.
& TheSafelist

He has a good understanding of the need to keep the name out there to perpetuate an autosurf for the period of its life cycle - good to see!

5. Two Cashouts a month plus a reasonable cash out window could see a fair bit of longevity (Compact had three a month and gave us three massive months.) What are your plans for longevity?

The whole idea of these sites is to allow people to make money, after all that's why we all spend hours online every day looking for the right program. In an ideally world these programs would run for ever and we all would make alot of money and have no need to look for good money making opportunities online. But in the real world I hope the vast majority of people understand that this will never happen.

From an admins point of view I need to keep both sides happy. I needed to find a way to keep money inside the program while keeping the members happy. To do this I needed to decide on what kind of ROI I would operate the site on. I had thought about ranges from 10% to 20% but had noticed that the lower ROI sites lasted longer (obviously), but at the same time did not attract the vast amount of members. I talked with a few friends to see what concepts they would be happy with and made a decision on the structure I have.

6. How's the growth?

First Signs are good.

260 members with 110 of the members upgraded.

Number of sites shown in the rotator increasing every day. ( Last 5 Days Below)

2006-08-23 2495
2006-08-22 2230
2006-08-21 1966
2006-08-20 1127
2006-08-19 1151

This was of course as of a few days ago and I've noticed them ramping it up a fair bit quicker again since then.

7. Upcoming plans? Any plans for Anti-DDOS protection, as this can be a big buzz word amongst the community and having the good stuff in place could encourage a lot of people to join.

No major changes. From my experience when an admin makes a changes to the plans once the program is running it sends panic signals to the members. When I first came into the HYIP game I got hit by an HYIP who suddenly started a doubler. Once all of the happy members had deposited into the doubler the following day the site had vanished, so had the admin.

Anti-DDOS..... Yes I have seen this all over the place, especially a few months ago. However I don't think people demand it now. I talked to my host regarding this, and I agree with what they say. A DDOS attack can not really be prevented as the attacks come from different sources, yes there are pieces of software and hardware which can filter out the attacks quicker than the tech guys at the data centers but the attack still takes place. Take E-Gold for example, they have the Pro Logic protection and since they moved to that I know of several occasions that they have got attacked and remained offline for hours.

Very true actually - although it can be helpful for many people who want "anti-DDOS protection" before going into the program, not fully understanding that many surfs have used FAKE DDOSes as an EXCUSE or an EXIT STRATEGY for shutting down!

8. How long do you plan on keeping the paid sticky? People tend to panic if it is dropped too early. (I know you already answered that in the thread...)

Yes I have the sticky thread on MoneyMakerGroup, and I will keep this till the end. Some people believe that it's not needed and is just away for the MMG team to make money. Having come from another popular forum (GetPaidForum) I know that the threads at the top are active and people tend to click on those first. I think of it as a way of getting Aut0Surf noticed.

9. How do you respond to the (slightly weird I'll admit) claims that there are similarities to TenDaily (I don't see any to tell you the truth, but it'd be good to hear your opinion on it.)

I saw this on MoneyMakingGroup, at first I thought WTF, but I have read many forums and I know some people like to get there kicks by causing trouble. This happens in every forum I have ever visited hence I have never replied to that poster, and in fact I am shocked to find the poster is a member of Aut0Surf and has upgraded.

I have lost count on the number of comments made from people stating that the admin from one site is somehow connected to the admins from others. People seem to get pleasure from making a conspiracy theory out of nothing.

Sometimes the conspiracy is true, sometimes it ain't! But I like your use of "at first I thought, WTF!" Made me chuckle.

10. A little about yourself?

Scott McCann 24 years of age. Been online for sometime, experience in Paid to Read, Paid To click. Graduated to HYIP/AutoSurf.

I'm nothing special just a normal Joe. I don't know what you want me to say here.

Well, that'll do mate!

11. Still gonna be here in two months mate?

Thousand dolalr question. I imagine so as the ROI I have will allow the site to maintain a good life span.

END INTERVIEW

So there you go. I found it to be a fairly fresh and different interview to most of the guff you get from admins (and I'll admit I ask slightly different questions as well that get to the point which can change the course of the interview a bit.)

Anyway, this freshness and some of the honesty displayed has given me faith that there's a good CHANCE we'll continue to see some solid growth from Aut0Surf for a while yet!

Stay tuned, if I'm struck by inspiration (or boredom) I'll bring some more juice.

Ciao, y'all.

Aut0Surf.

Aut0Surf With A Zero And GAP Updates

In a few moments I'll post my little discussion/interview with the Aut0Surf admin. It's a mildly amusing read and raised my confidence in Aut0Surf a little, at least in relation to it being worth a spin!

And in other Aut0Surf news, they continue to be my current favourite autosurf baby (note that GAP is my fave autosurf toddler/small child!)…

Why?

In the purely extraneous category:

The name is catchy, if you say Autosurf with a zero!
The site beeps at you. (So does pretty much every other site.)

In the less extraneous category, recently they moved to dedicated hosting. Basically, the admin said they were going to move to some nice juicy hosting within the next day or two and they did. No mucking about, no noticeable downtime, and all minor problems that remained were quickly sorted out. A great way to gain some cred amongst the surf-lovers.

“The server was ordered on Wednesday with a lead time of 2 days. So hopefully the server will be ready today.

Once its ready, we will quickly take the site down to tranfer files to the server then place a redirection on the shared server to the IP of the new server while DNS issues are updating.

I am not expecting much downtime but as you can imagine some users may experience a short spell in downtime.

Starting from a shared server was taken on advice given from the host, however instead of going through this process when the site starts to grow, I decided to do it now to prevent further confussions.

Sorry about the look of the site today, I am getting a new look installed.”

So they completed that move with no noticeable whiplash - nice.

And back to the extraneous category, many people like the design and it is prettier than the majority of sites - I don’t know why surf admins bother with ugly, standard designs when it is cheap-as (or easy-as if you can do it yourself) to at least get it prettied up a bit!

And back to the less extraneous column - people are being paid.

And now to the ‘latest updates about Aut0surf column:

“I do not want to get into any arguments with any members on this, but I have to explain a few things and get this sorted from an early stage.

Aut0Surf is an autosurf site, which states that people will receive the daily commissions if they surf a set number of sites. In the case of Aut0Surf people need to surf 10 sites to get the 7%.

In the case of network issues and the site being offline for the majority of the day I will make the decision if to credit the members for the downtime, and of course this information will be posted on the following forums

MoneyMakerGroup, TalkGold, KingofDollars, TheSafeList, DreamTeamMoney, EMarketCafe, ASA Forum & GlobalGoldTalk.

If a member forgets to surf for one day, please email me stating that you forgot and I may credit, however this is not a guarantee. Please do not state that the server was down when I have proof that the server has maintained 100% uptime so far.

Members today are looking for honest and fair admins, all I ask is that the members be honest with me. If you forgot to surf say so, please do not state the server was offline when it was not.

Members have 24 hours to surf to claim the 7%. If when the member tries they have an ISP problem, please try later.

I am running a open and fair site, all I ask is the members be open and fair to me.

Scott

PS If a member continues to forget to surf, may I suggest that they look into the various HYIPs that are out there that do not require any daily activities from the members.”

Fair enough! (Seeing as the title of that email update was in fact fairness.)

And in GlobalAdsPro news:

Yes, we had server downtime during August 24th - however, since the site was available for at least more than 14 hours out of 24, there will be no manual fixing of accounts (there is no other way of making the individual credits). This would only delay payouts terribly as I have a tight rehearsal and other work commitments schedule over the weekend through to Wednesday.

Oh, and don’t hassle Trish about a payment! You’ll get sent to the back of the queue. (Which means you have to wait another day or two.) She’s made that one very clear.

Remember - surfs are risky. Games. But can be fun. These are just two of my current favourites. As you know, there’s about a billion out there.

GlobalAdsPro And The Mini Update

GlobalAdsPro was down.

Here’s why, from Trish’s (as in the admin) announcement:

“Server must have gone down shortly after my trip to bed (around 2am my time) and I only found out wehn I got back to the office a short while ago. We’re now waiting for the server finger to push the re-boot button - simple as that.
Instead of getting crossed, try to imagine what this means to me….catch up times again, as I cannot stop any of my other schedules [unfortunately] to be round the clock at GAP.

Cheers
T”

And now they’re back.

What a delightful merrygoround… Speaks volumes for people’s trust in Trish, David Cannard, etc. that when GAP goes down for a while/sees problems for a few minutes, much like Cannard’s sites, that there ISN’T ten thousand people screaming that the sky is falling down!

Global Online Depository

Here's some not-so-fresh Global Online Depository updates.

Although my attempts to follow up on them have been slightly thwarted so far (mainly due to my busy 'real life') the more I hear about them, the more of a positive feeling I get.

They remain in my "Medium Risk HYIP" section but I have a feeling they'll long outlast everything there, and if I get a chance to follow up on them they could well graduate to the 'real' Investment Opportunities section.

Anyway, I digress.

"Participation in Global is still growing at a healthy clip. In order to accommodate growth, we review our administrative procedures periodically. One area that needed attention was the management of withdrawals and internal transfers."

"Withdrawal/Transfers

Global's policy with regard to withdrawal and transfer of cash from member accounts has been enforced only loosely in the past. With the organization getting larger every day, this has become more and more of a problem.

For the most part in the past, it worked on the honor system. However, tracking a 90-day hold on interest earnings and a 30-day hold on referral bonuses can be difficult in very active accounts. Due to the size of the organization and time constraints of administrators, it has become increasingly difficult to check hold times manually. To make matters worse, the only control our software provided over internal transfers was the ability to disable them altogether - an option we did not want to impose on our members.

Consequently, our software has been modified to address these issues. The 90-day hold on interest earnings and 30-day hold on commissions aren't new policies by any means. Heretofore, they just weren't enforced very well. Thanks to customization of our software, these policies are now applied automatically to all accounts.

Pending withdrawals. Some member accounts that have a negative Net Available Cash value also had pending withdrawal requests. These have been deleted. Requested amounts have been restored to member accounts. If this was enough to bring your Net Available Cash back to a positive value you may re-enter your withdrawal request with a lower amount provided your last withdrawal or transfer was at least 7 days ago.

New information has been added to the FAQ page under section Withdraw / Transfer. Please read those updates before contacting support.

Thank you.

Global Online Administration
Aug-20-2006 03:16:28 AM"

This definitely has come into effect instantly, and my backoffice is a lot clearer and easier to understand now. Anyway, apparently I withdrew some money before I was supposed to so I'm seeing a negative there for a while until enough days rack up to release my other funds! Oops. It's all good though, it was my own ignorance of the terms.

Anyway, Global Online Depository are chugging along nicely, as I have said, and let's see if I get off my ass eventually and follow up on them, or continue to be lazy and entangled in 'real life!' :)

Win Some Lose Some

Although Diggos is facing some problems, my two favourite autosurfs are powering along:

I was just paid by Aut0surf (with a zero!) within an hour of request. She's gaining some momentum.

And GlobalAdsPro just keeps kicking ass - their latest mini update?

"Currently paying August 22nd expiries."

I can confirm this having received my latest payment. Trish always comes out swinging, and GAP is gaining momentum as well.

Anyway, thus ends this mini update. (And if you want to avoid the ups and downs - stay away from the games. May I suggest FX-Experts? :) *shameless plug*)

Diggos Stalled?

Be careful peeps, it appears that 'Peter Sweeney' has gone quiet on the Diggos front and a lot of payments are pending.

There's still room to breathe, but it's not looking good - so don't throw any more money at this one!

FX Experts - Sorting A Problem

Bloody hell - how many updates did we pump out today? Keep coming back guys, cos, you know, Northern Calm RULZ.

*Ahem*

Anyway, as usual, the inside scoop -

FX Experts has had a little payment mix up for the week, with some members being paid out more than they were meant to be.

This has resulted in Marcos halting the rest of the payments temporarily whilst he sorts the problem...

Nothing major, a lot minor and it'll be sorted soon.

What's That In The Sky? Why, It's Another Aut0Surf!

Here's something I prepared earlier - check this one out if you're a fan of the ole' Surfs.

Yes, I’m jumping onto another autosurf.

Why another one? Well I’m continually looking for the ‘next big thing’ to satiate my gambling streak, and although this one really doesn’t strike me as the ‘next ginormously big thing’ it definitely has the potential to be a solid Big Thing. (TM.)

They’re off to a good start with the name - Aut0Surf.com. I was complaining that no surfs were adopting names that stood out anymore (FerrarySurf anyone - pah!) but then again I digress - 12DP, Compact, Wired, Phoenix, etc. all had fairly run of the mill names. And in a way, Aut0Surf is really clutching at the ‘minimalist’ naming straws - but it’s pretty hard to forget. It’s Autosurf. With a ZERO! So I give them marks for that.

But c’mon Chancer - a surf needs a few more marks than that for you to plonk some dosh (translation: put some money) into. Well, what caught my eye with Aut0Surf, much like Alientrust and co. back when they first started, is that it has taken a slightly different angle - and done it sucessfully, rather than looking like a poor hodge podge.

The site itself is pretty, though nothing genius. It has relatively custom wording on the front page (though we’ve seen it mostly before.) The grammar is not perfect, but not that poor either.

They’ve adopted the “two cashouts a month” rule which has been used by some of the most successful recent surfs (that is, adopting a cashout method that does not plague the system with instant cashouts every ten minutes and cripple it when it hits critical mass.) Case in point - CompactSurf, it’s solid three-month long run, and it’s three-cashouts a month rule!

The payout rate is 7% for 21 days (which makes 147% all up.) That’s pretty reasonable, and that slightly-lower rate could make it a much better bet in the long run and give it much more room to breathe and grow.

Referral commissions are 5%, which is nowhere near as exorbitant as many other recent surfs so theoretically won’t put too much of a dint into their longevity.

So bla bla bla, Chancer, the usual crud about autosurfs - what made you join this one?

Well, they’ve grabbed themselves some blanket advertising and are picking up a good rep., which is good.

Their admin is extremely responsive and pretty well written, another hallmark of a longer-lasting surf.

But that’s all the usual stuff - these guys have brought the ‘custom’ to the table that they need to thrive.

They are using grams of gold instead of USD as their currency, and have custom-edited scripts to reflect this.

Yummy!

Why? Well many surfs in the past, including some of the aforementioned “Big Guns” (Compact, etc.) shifted some of the blame onto the rapid fall in the price of gold that it experienced recently when it adjusted for the massive boom it had had over the prior months.

Now this may or may not be true, but surely it did have an effect.

What is more important is the PSYCHOLOGICAL effect this has left on people - they have an aftertaste in their mouths, and are worried about gold fluctuations. Many scammy sites are trying the idea of other, dodgy e-currencies, or their own in-house e-currency (which is one of the worst signs of all!)

Aut0Surf acknowledge - like most of the quicker of cats out there - that E-Gold is solid, solid, solid and an inhouse processor is a stupid idea.

Adopting the grams method avoids the fluctuations completely. This may bode well at the fluctuating of gold prices, but what it bodes much better for is the psychological aspect that many of the average punters who fuel these things would be worried about.

By attacking this angle, putting this spin on it, Aut0Surf could be setting itself up to nab a lot of punters. And why not - it’s always that angle, that little bit of freshness, no matter how much, that draws people in.

Alientrust pulled a similar trick with its unique design, and “Mission” oriented approach. Look how long it lasted - it’s only now truly gasping its last breaths.

Phoenix, Wired and Compact all had some unique spin.

Surfs always need something to stand out - Aut0Surf has that. It’s not something that makes me think “juggernaut!” but it is enough for me to think “hey, this might catch on and tip the scales in its favour.

Here’s hoping! Fingers crossed for Chancer and his latest bet.

“Welcome to Aut0Surf.Com. Thats right, another autosurf thats just launched, but this one has one BIG difference.

I have actually re-coded the whole script, and that is alot of lines of code, to make the script work on Grams of Gold, and not USD, carry on reading for further information.

We all know that the price of gold rises and falls and in todays world, one day Gold could be near $700 Per Oz and the next week its at $560 per oz. In the past, Surf Admins have suffered and some programs have had to close due to the sudden drop in funds in the AutoSurfs E-Gold Account. Imagine being an admin and waking to find that gold has crashed and you can no longer operate the surf.

Well, with Aut0Surf that will not happen. Each member can buy an ‘Ad Unit’ for 0.25 Grams (1/4 of a Gram), upto a maximum of 125 Grams (500 Ad units). From then on, for every day that member surfs 10 or more pages from the rotator they will recieve 7% of the total amount of Grams they have purchased. That right 7% of the Gram Value not the USD value. This continues for 21 Straight days, aslong as the member surfs 10 or more pages.

Everything in the script has be re-coded to Grams. Moving away from USD can only bring stability to the program. All sections have be re-coded ranging from the Surf Section, Paid to Click Section, Bonus Cash Section, and of course the secure Auto Upgrade section.

7% for 21 Days brings you in a nice 147% ROI in just 3 weeks. Ontop of this, members can earn 5% in our referral program, this is another good way to increase the members earnings, remember the referral program also works in Grams. If someone you bring to the site spends 3 Grams (12 Units) you will recieve 0.15 Grams.

Members can cashout out twice per month, whatever amount they are showing in their balance. We do not charge any fee;s for this, however payments can take upto 7 days to appear in your E-Gold Account. The whole Surf Industry is going through a rough time, and WE need to enure that everyone pulls together and works hard to bring back those good old days. This will take alot of work and effort by us all, I will run this program well, and all I ask from you the members is your support.

There is no guarantee that you will make money. While we believe that our system will make money for those who actively participate, it is possible that you will not make any money under certain circumstances. The earning rate and referral rates may change from time to time. The money we pay out is earned from sales of ‘Ad Unit’s;, site and email advertising, additional traffic credits, and other revenue producing activities we may undertake.

Aut0Surf.com is hosted on a shared server at the moment, based at Go-Mama-Hosting, which is a very well know hosting comapny who caters for the Surf/PTR industry. After speaking with the staff and listening to their comments I have decided to host on a shared server and will increase to a dedicated server with the same host as time sees fit. If any script issues arise and I am unable to correct, Go-Mama’s sister company Scripts-R-Us provide a fantastic script support guy called Kevin who will step in and help me out.

My name is Scott, and I am your admin of Aut0Surf.com. I am aware its not going to be easy and we may encounter some minor problems, remember this script has been trolled through line by line and changes have been made. Over the last few years I have been a very active member in the PTR/PTC world and have crossed into HYIP’s/Surfs over the last 12 months.

So welcome to Aut0Surf and lets have a good time and enjoy the real benifits of what these Surf programs are meant to achieve.”

So, their introductory spiel is a fairly personable one, with some unique flashes. The fact he emphasizes the 7-day period gives me hope as well, as 12DP and now 12by12 as well as many other surfs realize this is the way to go for longevity versus the super-quick payouts which result in a very early critical mass and make it a lot harder for the average Joe to play.

Anyway, Aut0Surf.

I’m sure we’ll see people popping up with strategies of when to cashout to maximise gold performance any minute now… (wait, it’s already happening!)

You know, check it out. It’s putting along nicely and is only a week old. At least it’s better than FerrarySurf. Seriously, how lame is that? They wanted to rip off FerrariSurf, couldn’t they just grab another car and spell it CORRECTLY. Ferrary just looks stupid. What about PorscheSurf or LamboSurf or something.

Wait - what was I talking about again?

CIM Mutual Update

Community Investors Mutual has issued an official update. Thar she blows:

"8/20/06

Dear members:

We are now in the second month of having opened CIM to outside investors and as the club’s membership grows steadily, with more deposits coming in constantly, it is becoming apparent that we need to do something about increasing the security of our funds from hackers. When the club was limited to a few members there was not much liquid cash in our ecurrency account to worry about. But now there is a constant flow of cash entering our accounts and very little withdrawals so that it is becoming necessary to move funds in and out of various ecurrency exchangers and bank accounts to maintain safety and security from hackers.

As you will note from many reports in forums, e-gold is constantly under attack from hackers and we see many of their customers’ accounts being successfully emptied of funds. While this is a risk we have to face in this industry, I am trying to minimize this by keeping our egold balance as small as possible. In so doing I have to move funds out of egold and into safer places and back again into e-gold when there is a need to do so. This moving of funds in and out of banks and ecurrency exchangers entails having to pay fees each time and these fees range from 1% to as high as 4% per transaction. As you can well guess these charges eat into the club’s profits.

There are very few sales or redemptions of MPUs so there is hardly any income derived from the 7% redemption fee. It is gratifying to see that members have enough confidence in the club not to want to sell MPUs but at the same time the anticipated revenue from this source is not happening.

It is therefore decided that to recover some of the currency exchange fees and maintain the club’s profitability we will now be collecting an entry fee of 3% for all new investments or new purchases of MPUs. This will apply to all new members as well as new purchases from existing members. The money generated from this new fee goes directly into the club’s coffers and not to me or anybody else.

I’m sure all of you will agree that we cannot afford to compromise the club’s safety and profitability and this new policy is for the good of the club and its long term existence.

Admin"

Very reasonable. Though I hope everyone realizes that it's not E-Gold itself that gets hacked, it's people's accounts (e.g. spyware stealing their passwords, for a very simle example, or people not using the SRK. Most instances of E-Gold 'hackings' are in fact laziness, or a misunderstanding of security, on the users behalf.)

NSFG On Track For A Kick Ass Month

I mentioned earlier in the month that good ole NSFG had managed to achieve it's new goal of locking in 5% minimum profit a month.

That was all good, though nowhere near as much as the months they had during the "bad ass period" as Chancer shall now call it.

Many people were worried that they were slacking off and only aiming for 5% a month from now on - which is cool for mega large accounts, but the little guys might be a little disappointed (after all, having a bunch of double digit months perhaps gave us all slightly inflated expectations.)

However, despite at one point claiming he would only be doing monthly updates, Ken has decided to regularly weekly, mid-weekly, and 'whenever he feels like it' updates again and the news is good as NSFG trades itself into the 'win!' zone for the month.

I have no idea how much they gained percentile wise, but they seem to be back 'in the zone.' Good news right? And that's with a week or two off this month.

Dilly Dallying

Ooh, so an update on some of the games I’m involved in is in order:

My only current autosurf, GlobalAdsPro, continues to thrive. The membership has steadily grown to 1800+ members, which means they have plenty of room to move, plenty of room to live still. Trish is on top of things most of the time and payouts continue to come out steadily from all reports (plus seeing them plonk into my E-Gold account on a regular basis confirms this.)

Anyway, no more ref. commissions between Singaporean members is allowed:
“No referral permitted between members from Singapore, effective immediately - any current and future referrals like that found in the system will be removed from their Singaporean upline
For the well-being of the program
Cheers!
Trish”

Also the upgrade limit has been raised once again, to $1100. This steady upwards movement of the upgrade ceiling should help prolong the program, and it’s great to see some forward thinking and planning.

GlobalAdsPro continues to play SUCCESSFUL underdog!

Diggos is still paying me like clockwork - currently the terms are double your money within 30 days, and you’ll be paid within three (3). (I’ve noticed most paid within a day at most, but it’s designed for longevity, or at least that’s the clothing it’s purporting to wear, so I’m happy to wait when the time comes.)

Paid Paid Paid

Oh look, we (as in the collective "I") sound like MMG or something "Paid!"

Anyway, withdrew some Diggos cashola to E-Gold and it went a lot more promptly then I expected. I was expecting at least a three day wait, but instead received it within 24 hours (easily.)

Also GlobalAdsPro paid me (but now the site is down for me... :( .)

Anyway, it's great when the games are paying out! I still highly recommend Diggos, in terms of gaming.

SwissCult To Be Elected Into Malaysian Government

Yes, the Cult Of Swiss sadly continues to grow.

The cult cottage industry continues to pop up around the behemoth (of shite.) Now we have third party sites like SwissGoldz.com. All of these third party exchangers are creating a thriving exchange market which is giving the Swiss RM E Points Or Whatever The Hell They Are Called REAL VALUE.

Stop it.

Seriously - if you're going to build a castle, don't use sand and flimsy fibro as your foundation. That's exactly what you're all doing by using the creaky scam Cult Of Swiss as your building blocks.

It's taking... or perhaps it has taken... over Malaysia.

Where's next? Australia? If so, I'll be waiting on the shoreline with some mates and big sticks. Back foul beast, back...

(Stay away from SwissCult. Try Scientology instead.)

If we really want to worship something fake from Switzerland, and will it into a legitimate existence, can't it be one of those big blonde chicks with the fake...

Nevermind.

(That was all a little incoherent so to sum up - SwissCash is a scam. Around the scam, a bunch of third parties have popped up. If enough third parties pop up they can basically legitamize the fake financial behemoth and morph it's currency worth something. If there's enough supply and demand...)

FXEMA Up

FXEMA is now up and running in a more visible state so if you head on over you can see more than just a blank logo screen now.

What's that? "Go Marcos?" Indeed! Relatively cheap managed accounts for us all.

Just remember that this one is traded 'mechanically' rather than by someone like Hermann.

Global Online Depository Chugging Along

Global Online Depository is still chugging along.

I had some follow up on talking to the admin's but that got lost by the wayside.

I have been a little skeptical but continue to hear good news from third parties about them being real.

The latest goss is that they are but a short distance away from being fully SEC approved, with a callsign - which means they'll be publically traded. Interesting.

In the meantime, I had a pending withdrawal for ages and I was thinking "is this the beginning of the end?"

Well, it turns out it wasn't - Buck Hunter needed my E-Gold account (although it's in my back office he needed me to add it in the comments) and sent me an email saying as much.

Pretty much, I replied with my E-Gold acct. no. and I was paid literally within an hour or two.

These happenings have made me decide to throw GlobalOnlineDepository onto my "Games/HYIPs I Like" list, and could move up further onto the 'real opportunities' list depending on what I find out.

In the meantime if you want to get in, I recommend getting in now, as compounding will be enabled for ONE MORE WEEK. Just a heads up for those who might be interested!

The 'games/HYIP' list is looking pretty healthy if I do say so myself.

Global Online Depository

New FX Experts Spin Off

FXEMA, the new FX Experts spin off, sort of bridges the gap between 'little guys' and 'big guys' for managed accounts.

Go here to read a nice write up about it at my good mate Van Bassidor's blog.

My one question remains though, which I am too tired to answer at the moment as I am about to do some travelling - I get the impression the account is automatically traded, rather than by someone like Hermann.

Global Ads Pro

I removed Creative Concepts from my little HYIP/games list. They were getting too iffy. I think KAOnline is a far superior replacement in terms of 'games.'

And GlobalAdsPro paid me again and continue to putt along swimmingly - they are really starting to pick up a good rep now, with steady momentum. All of my payouts so far have been a lot quicker than I have expected.

KaOnline - Awesome HYIP

Yes, KaOnline.

An awesome HYIP.

Awesome, you may say? Why, this is better than everything?

No. It's just awesome within the realms of HYIPs/probable games.

I've been a bit too slack to jump into KaOnline for a while but the continued buzz has made me stand up and take notice. They've got what it takes to go the distance -

Very community active admin, who is actively seeking to push this everywhere.
Some details released.
Complicated, custom, awesome and expensive site.
9 - 11% weekly returns!
Withdrawals are mega quick.

Of course, as far as I can tell, no actual verification of the HOW they are making the money they are bringing in has been released, so they stay firmly in the the HYIP column - however they rank above everything else I have in there at the moment.

That's about it for now. I think their uniqueness and originality could see them soldier on for ages, if they're a 'game.' (That's the polite way of putting it!) And of course, so far they've positioned themselves so that all they'd need to do would be release some more tiny portions of information to start pipping the 'legit' goalpost.

KaOnline - ch-ch-check it out. (Remember I have it in my HYIP section for a reason though!)

Ferrary Surf

Okay, there was a FerrariSurf.

Now there's a Ferrary Surf.

HOW STUPID IS THAT.

When are people going to come up with interesting or cool names for these things?

Whoever designed the site is like the illiterate brother of Luigi and Guido from Cars. FERRARY!

Daily10Surf No More

Anyway, I think it's no more. (Daily10Surf that is.)

Might be time to suss out a new and better surf then... watch this space. I'm inclined to wait and try to hold off to an obvious 'big gun' arrives. But then what am I gonna do with my surfing addiction?

I see some people dancing the ashes claiming that it was from the guys behind Daily11Surf...

So?

Seriously, ALL admins for surfs are basically scammers. Most of them come from the masterminds behind one or another.

So, a surf that had massive potential, went for a bit over a month, had a 'professional' approach, and garnered heaps of buzz (Daily11) but shot itself in the foot too early...

Theoretically such 'professional' scammers should be able to pull off another month or two.

Of course they were scammers, but if it was from the Daily11 guys, they've proven they're GOOD scammers! (As in able to build momentum.)

Anyone, I only had one upgraded ref., a guy I know from HYIPD, so hopefully he is not too much out of pocket.

It just makes me shake my head, the self righteousness of people who claim "see, I told you it was from the Daily11 guys!" Well, guess what people - "see, 90% of HYIPs and surfs are from the same interlinked group of scammers!"

There's no room for smarm in game-playing. Cos we know it's a game. Or at least, I hope we do.

Okay, okay... there's room for smarm when educating the masses who think it is a 'real surf' with 'honest admin.' :)

However, plenty of room for "I told you so's!" when a program claims to be legit or many think it is (*cough* SwissCult *cough*.)

Not Much

Title says it all. Not much of interest for me in this arena at the moment.

Diggos is still paying and I'm weighing up how far to play it hard before I start to syphon off some profit. I've got a good feeling (though just a feeling but let's hope it's Grand Funk more than a feeling) they'll be around for a while yet.

GlobalAdsPro continues to impress. I'm surprised to not see so many people jumping on the bandwagon in an explosive manner, but as long as they keep lesiurely boarding then it's 'all good.'

I was tossing up whether to give 12by12 a go but then decided against it. It may have worked for 12DP, and I have faith in Dave to an extent, at least in his motivations, but I find that the huge INSTANT hype the program garnered, as well as a massive influx of members combined with mucking about with a dodgy site that is on-again off-again (such a thing sets off the masses) and things like missing referral commissions make me think twice. 12DP lasted so long because of steady, prolonged growth. 12by12 hit really hard to the jaw, and then has sat back weaving and bobbing. When nearly all the members of the community jump in first few days, where has it got left to go?

Like I said though, let's hope Dave's best intentions pull through for many and create a monster surf.

Everything else is chugging along nicely, hence the lack of updates. Don't forget to check out CIM Pool...

Oh, and the FXIG and NSFG returns for the month were disappointingly a little low. I usually wouldn't complain but after months and months of minimal returns compared to the explosive returns of the past, it's only human nature to be a little disappointed after placing false expectations in their head!

Hangin' Round (With GAP. That's Global Ads Pro, Not Madonna's Front Teeth)

You know, like the Lou Reed song from Transformer. “You keep, hangin’ round…”

Anyway, GlobalAdsPro 3-day + system is finding itself well into effect now.

Some people will say, “but oh, a wait is a bad thing!” But it’s never that simple. Trish has the cred, if there is such a thing in this ‘industry’ (bah) to try and roll it on for months and a slight wait on payouts can help a lot. (See 12DP of course, and even 12by12 has adopted the surf - wait - pay strategy from the get go.) PR wise, it’s a lot better to enact such a thing from the beginning of course, so people don’t cry the sky is falling down. It could of course be falling down. It’s a gamble, that’s the whole point, there’s that risk - but there’s usually four sides when the two-up coins are spinning! (That’s a really lame joke. You see, two-up is an old Aussie gambling game with two coins. So therefore, four sides. See, I told you it was lame. My joke, not the game.)

“August 6, 2006 - payouts catching up is going well: all accounts showing as upgraded and whose upgrades expired before or on Aug. 3 up to this moment have been paid as have a number of later expiring upgrades from Aug. 4, 5 and 6.”

People on MMG are happy… but then again, they nearly always are.

P.S. No offence made by Madonna joke. I love the woman!

Global Ads Pro - Everybody's Doin' It

Well, it seems that every young whippersnapper surf these days is coming out and exposing the scammers/cheaters in their system.

Some people, as we say in Australia, have ‘cracked a sook’ about some surfs sharing too many details about members this way, and there is validity to that argument.

Either way, here’s the latest tidbit from GlobalAdsPro on that front… Interestingly some of the cheater accounts shown are merely there to flog another surf. A conspiracy? I’d like to think so.

Because conspiracies make it fun!

Also, despite the slowdown with the ’scrupulous checking’ of accounts, it appears (according to the forums) they are continuing to chug along with the payments. Many people may see this as a bad sign, a few-days-gap, but it can in fact be a positive thing, especially if the excuse is found to be valid. That three days, kept consistent, could end up prolonging the life of the program by who knows how long (but then again, it could not - but sometimes it’s not so simple as to say “this is good!” or “this is bad!”.) (The seven day 12DP wait had a lot to do with its endurance, and in recent times we’ve seen programs with nigh on instant payments - the problem being of course, that they bite the dust that much quicker.)

So as usual, there's two sides to the coin, don't just listen to one, look at both sides of the fence. Anyone can say on a forum like MMG "oh it's a bad sign! other programs did this and went down!" (which could well be true as well) but none of them bother to balance that up with the other side of the coin, and to look at the WHY - another program may have doen a similar thing and went down, but the mitigating circumstances surrounding it could once again be thoroughly different. Don't be a sheep, don't scream the sky is falling down (and alternatively don't shout that the admin is 'the saviour of the industry!), be liquid! And always treat an autosurf like a game.

Anyway, here’s the mini little cheater expose posted by Trish…

“Temporary solution to Singaporean and similar accounts (same IP) - no referral commissions will apply. In other words, such accounts will have their upline as well as downline removed as the next priority task after all payouts are caught up.

Payouts will now take way longer as I will scrupulously audit each and every account, no exceptions. The result: below I will place IPs, email used, link(s) submitted for rotation of scammers who believe I’m an idiot not to notice no funds have ever been deposited into our account from theirs - do they really reckon I’ve got a mint at the office?

1. Mr cali land (lol) | Khs_sinvest @ yahoo.com | 154.35.1.12 | http://choicesurf.com (how interesting) | claims to be using e-gold acc. 3076371
2. Mr Mania Brarar (where do they come up with these, rofl) | maniabrarar @ yahoo.com | 154.35.1.12 | claims to be using e-gold acc. 2925093
3. Lona kabon | Lonakabon @ yahoo.com | 195.111.2.64 | http://choicesurf.com | claims to be using e-gold acc. 3076371 and 3076423
4. Malak Haddad | mouroforo @ yahoo.fr | 196.203.39.6 | http://autosurf.net | claims to be using e-gold acc. 3075969

If you are a program owner, feel free to email me for some eye-opening information - but I reserve the right to decision who I share the information with.”

Moronical Happenings

Oh, my GoogleSearch box is working again. Use it to search through my idiotic rantings. :)

The HYIP/surf world is a great source of unintentional comedy for many people.

Firstly, we've got the idiots running around acting like they're qualified-advisor types, giving pointless advice filled with naivete. You'll often people shooting down your own well-informed opinion as well just so they can flog an obvious scam and not acknowledge it is a scam.

The problem is, we have a lot of people with no clue, acting like they DO have a clue. They use past precedents without taking into account the nuance and difference of it all.

It's like they walk into a courtroom and claim that Suspect A, who killed a man accidentally, should be treated the same as Suspect B who killed and pillaged twenty people on a mammoth serial killer binge.

It's not the same - and this applies to HYIPs. There are similarities, and precedents, but few too people know how to read them properly. The problem is, you'll get a lot of white noise from people who are telling you they DO know how to read the precedents.

Just remember that the nice and amiable people are often the ones pushing the biggest agenda, and are too afraid to step on any toes! That's how they get the most sales. Pretending to look out for the little guy for example, but in actuality just protecting their interests.

I don't lie about what's going on here - if I like something, I say so. I write a LOT of crap and in there you'll usually find both sides of the fence. If I say it's a GAME it's a game and treat it as such! :)

Talking about those pushing the biggest agenda let's look at the SwissCult brigade. I got one of my posts deleted at MoneyMakerGroup - seriously, if you want to learn ANYTHING do not go to MMG. MoneyMakerGroup is like a hive of scum and villiany to quote Star Wars. It's the sort of joint where you get posts deleted for referencing another program, 'hijacking' a thread. The very fact that you can get reprimanded for trying to discuss a program and use comparative analysis makes it a 'hijacking' should illustrate to you right now what MMG is - a PROMOTIONAL tool.

Nothing else. Just a chance for people to flog crap programs. Fair enough but don't treat it as anything else. I myself visit often, but I make no illusions about what it is.

I got my latest post for being 'negative.' Now, I presented factual tidbits, as well as some comedy, some conversational points and some well-informed opinions but, see, because it was 'negative' it wasn't allowed in the thread.

It's 'hijacking.'

Okay, so we're allowed to discuss, but not compare it to anything. We're allowed to discuss, but not show any opinion other than positive?

So I take it you're all getting how crap MMG is right? And I'm sure, dear readers, you're a smart bunch, and already realized this!

Anyway, I've got a good feeling it was the whiny SwissCult sooks who went whinging to the mods to get me deleted because I was ruining their cult-like recruitment drive.

Play it wise and smart in this 'industry' and remember that the devil and the alligator (or croc if you're an Aussie like meself) are the ones with the brightest, nicest smiles.

On another note, my game of the moment paid me again - Diggos. I'm playing it hard and hoping for a GoldenRocks style run, but that's because I'm none-too-bright! I'd definitely recommend a bit of play on it, but play smart.

I also didn't mention earlier that I was paid by another game, GlobalAdsPro. They've got potential despite minor setbacks, but I wouldn't exactly go calling it 'blazing potential.'

Also, I'm following up on GlobalOnlineDepository still... I'm getting there. As of yet, my withdrawal request of probably 4 - 5 working days ago hasn't been processed.

NSFG July End Update

Well the end of July rolled around and NSFG booked 2.41%. It was a tough month, and as many of you probably noticed, the geopolitical climate was not exactly predictable.

And in some more 'look at us we're making lots of money!' style news, for the month of August they have already locked in 5% (as in they promise not to fall below that.)

Nice!

Back Again...

Yes after a day or two of absence, Chancer returns!

What's been happening in the meantime?

Daily10Surf is still here. And still paying.

My more highly recommended surf of the moment, if you are into that sort of thing, GlobalAdsPro, was apparently the victim of a hacker...

"A whole bunch of accounts using same IP have just been suspended - Congratulations!

Payouts will now take way longer as I will scrupulously audit each and every account, no exceptions.

Automatic upgrades will return to GAP in near future as our technician is working out a solution.

If you are a program owner, feel free to email me for some handy information."

Automatic upgrades are ON for the time-being.

Some extra security has been put in place - but of course, unless you're a hacker yourself, it's pretty hard to know how inventive they turn out to be next :|

Payouts are going slow as I am auditing each account as well as e-gold site appears impossible to navigate at the moment.

I will be adding any and all manual upgrades in a few hours."s

Fair enough if true. This doesn't change my stance on their potential potential. In fact, if the three day gap is kept consistent it could benefit the program.

Well that's it with the game/surf updates, more to come later on...

Guess Who's Back? Daily10's Back.

Yes, Daily10Surf is once again back up and running.

And I'm off because I need to travel for the next 48 hours or so, so I'll catch you all on the flipside (i.e. a day or two.)

Ciao!

Welcome To The GAP

Well, I added Global Ads Pro to the "Medium/High Risk HYIPs I Like" column. I am too lazy to make another 'autosurf' column, and this keeps it neater...

I haven't added Daily10, but might after a period of time, depending on my outlook on it then.

Conspiracy!

Here's a post of mine, taken directly from NoBS HYIP... It references a post I wrote yesterday that I posted as well, at that site... I thought I'd post it as is, because I find the whole conspiracy angle amusing. (Case of the disappearing post! A good laugh.)

"Yesterday, I wrote a post with a bunch of updates on my favourite games and also had a mention of the Goldenrocks news.

Today it seems to have disappeared. It would have been the post before Jude’s mention of the Goldenrocks update.

Looking in my little ‘back office’ so to speak, here, it goes from blog post #1256 to #1258… Case of the disappearing post?

Well, anyway, there’s more little morsels so to speak so here they are…

Global Ads Pro (the GAP of the title) has got a little (understandably!) flustered update from Trish…

“Hi Everyone,

Honestly…enough, is enough…. what else can one do to keep you satisfied?

You all want to make money - nothing wrong with that. But it also seems the 5-10 min. you spend daily making it here is too much. Yet then you ALSO do not seem to have enough activities on your hands - You kept me most of this morning (my time) in my mailbox….with questions like:

“where do I click to add my site to rotation?” (answer: the button says: “add new site”)
or this one:
“I have expired. have I fallen through cracks?” (no offence, but maybe I wished you have Your upgrade expired a whole 2 hours before I got to the office this morning!!! - do YOU sleep and eat sometimes?).

So I have decided enough is enough…only support mail that pertains to urgent account issues NOT mentioned already in the News Flash or anywhere else on site will be responded to. I have just discovered the “delete X” in my outlook.

Also, I will NOT accept enquiries submitted via the GAP support form which ask about issues on any other site I maintain or am employed at - when I deal with GAP issues, that is where I am…I cannot hop over and open another few browser windows to check or fix your account elsewhere without losing sanity.

So please, next time, before heading straight for the support form, stop and think: is it really that hard to browse through the few GAP pages for the answer to my question? Is it going to be actually quicker if I find the answer myself?

I do enjoy serving you,
take good care
Trish
@ GAP”

Daily10Surf is down, and I much prefer GAP anyway, but they appear to not have chucked a runner as of yet, as they were back up with an announcement from the admin, now they are back down again.

An explanation is offered:

“Looks like its gonna be a long night as the sever again is offline.

Just an update: we are still at the datacenter working on the problem and we are aware the server went down again. This time it won’t take long to get the server back up - we were in the process of getting a kernel error corrected with SWsoft however the server crashed again before we were able to (fully) apply the fix.

We will post updates regularly here whenever we have new information.”

I fully expect them to come back (though nothing is certain!) in the next few hours - as what would be the point in an exit strategy so early on when most are only making tentative test spends? A nice bit of alliteration there.

Oh, and Peter from Diggos posted some explanatory stuff:

“I was surprised to see no questions posted here.

One member PMed me and that is all, well for those who are interested.

I am taking longer to send withdraw request payouts for one reason.

About the only questions I have received lately are about how a member can use and/or abuse the referral bonus sytem in order to make more money and that is not what Diggos was built for.

So effectively I changed the time it takes to receive your withdrawal request - to remove the incentive to withdraw funds, then respend back in again just for that small ref bonus.

I am not in business to shuffle around the same money over and over until the top referrers get it all (like most out there).
I want a balanced system where members can accept this rule gracefully and understand that it is with my best intentions in mind to make the change and make you wait a couple extra days.

Another positive thing this does is that now I know in advance exactly what will be needed to payout. Without this advance knowledge I might be forced to withdraw from certain accounts where it would be better if the funds could stay in place. (sorry I cannot give more details)

The problem did not get out of hand because I wont let it, and I hope people know they will get paid exactly as described.

What I want members to do is purchase advertising using the internal account feature and save $1 fee. Take out only what you want to spend somewhere else.

As our sales increase, so do payouts and at some point I will be forced to automate more of the payouts.

In the future you can expect that Diggos might only do one payout per week but that too is a good thing.

I got one PM that said change is a four letter word in the hyip industry and I can agree with this statement.

Diggos is not an HYIP, we are a solid group of advertisers that will prove
to the world how easy it is to enjoy great ads and profit too!

Anybody wanting a refund only needs to ask.

CHEERS

Peter”

Diggos is picking up some nice steam and they continue to be my favourite game and I have my fingers crossed for this one!

Oh, and SwissCult got moved to the Referral/MLM section in MMG! Ha ha. Stay away from the cult of Swiss, people!

Let’s see if this post mysteriously disappears too! It’s a conspiracy, I tells ya! "